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Bitter peace

Posté : mar. mars 08, 2005 5:54 pm
par von Aasen
Tout le monde connait je pense cet event, qui marque la fin de l'URSS par la prise de plusieurs villes par l'allemand.
Je me demandais si les conditions étaient les mêmes, et j'ai donc consulté le fichier texte approprié. Il faut Léningrad, Moscou, Stalingrad, Bakou et Sverdlovsk. Ca ne m'a pas posé trop trop de problèmes (juste beaucoup de temps), sauf pour le dernier objectif, mais bon finalement j'y suis arrivé en mi-43.
Seulement voilà, je suis allié aux Japonais, et il faudrait que eux aient Vladivostok aussi. Ils ne risquent pas de le faire, ils ont déjà perdu la Mandchourie, la Corée, l'île de Kyushu et la plupart de leurs îles du Pacifique face aux Américains.
Alors voilà, je me demandais, qu'est-ce que vous faites dans ces cas-là ?

Annexion totale de l'URSS ? (ce qui me parait assez utopique vu le nombre de provinces)
Envoi de renforts au Japon ? Si oui sous quelle forme ? Je leur filerai bien des paras et l'avion qui va avec mais ils n'ont pas assez de portée !
Attendre l'annexion du Japon par les étazes ? Ca risque de durer un certain temps, l'IA américaine n'est pas très fine ...
Autre ??

Posté : mar. mars 08, 2005 6:06 pm
par syrco
modifier l'event pour suprimer le problème japonais?

Posté : mar. mars 08, 2005 6:07 pm
par von Aasen
Je préfèrerais ne pas modifier le jeu !

Posté : mar. mars 08, 2005 6:12 pm
par Lafrite
Heuu, dans la même situation j'avoue humblement avoir activé l'event par la ligne de commande :roll:

Posté : mar. mars 08, 2005 6:22 pm
par von Aasen
Heum, c'est pas le genre de conseils que j'espérais ! :lol:

Posté : mer. mars 09, 2005 1:11 am
par SeNTEnZa
Il y a normalement un event Bitter peace avec le japon dans l'axe :

#########################################################################
# Stalin sues for Peace (Japan is Axis)
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 2046
random = no
country = GER

# Triggered by SOV 2645

name = "EVT_2024_NAME"
desc = "EVT_2024_DESC"
style = 0
picture = "Bitter_Peace"

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME2024A" # Accept the conditions
command = { type = trigger which = 2646 } #SOV
command = { type = dissent value = -50 } # This is a _major_ victory.
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME2024B" # No peace with the bolsheviks!
command = { type = dissent value = 15 }
}
}
#########################################################################

Cet event declenche le suivant (j'ai mis en rouge ce qui concerne le japon) :
Donc si ton japonnais est dans l'axe il aurait du avoir tout ca, vladivostok inclus.

Au cas ou l'event n'est pas bien passé, je te suggere de taper dans la console f12 : event 2646, et cela devrait retablir les choses 'si cela ne te pose pas de dilemne moral :mrgreen: )

#############################################################################
# The Bitter Peace - Japan is Axis (and thus get a bigger slice)
#############################################################################
event = {
id = 2646
random = no
country = SOV

# Triggered by GER 2046

name = "EVT_2625_NAME"
desc = "EVT_2625_DESC"
style = 0
picture = "Bitter_Peace"

action_a = {
name = "OK"


# Secede the west of Urals to Germany
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 212 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 218 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 219 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 217 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 216 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 215 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 200 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 201 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 221 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 225 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 226 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 227 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 228 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 220 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 231 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 232 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 233 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 234 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 235 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 236 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 237 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 238 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 239 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 246 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 249 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 245 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 247 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 248 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 249 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 242 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 244 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 241 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 240 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 250 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 256 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 251 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 252 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 253 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 254 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 258 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 259 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 257 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 255 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 260 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 263 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 262 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 261 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 264 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 265 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 266 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 267 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 269 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 268 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 173 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 172 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 170 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 171 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 176 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 174 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 177 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 175 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 178 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 272 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 273 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 271 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 274 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 275 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 276 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 277 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 278 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 270 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 279 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 94 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 287 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 286 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 285 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 281 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 289 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 288 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 282 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 283 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 284 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 280 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 190 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 191 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 192 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 186 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 187 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 188 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 189 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 185 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 184 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 183 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 182 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 181 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 180 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 153 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 154 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 155 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 159 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 157 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 156 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 165 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 166 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 169 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 160 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 167 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 163 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 168 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 162 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 161 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 164 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1778 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1777 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1776 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1775 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1774 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1841 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1783 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1782 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1781 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1780 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1570 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1568 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1569 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1837 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1827 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1829 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1828 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1838 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1839 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1832 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1836 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1831 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1830 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1835 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1834 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1874 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1771 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1850 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1856 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1857 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1858 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1907 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1840 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1846 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1842 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1847 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1843 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1844 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1845 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1848 }
#######if the soviets snatched poland early
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 303 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 306 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 307 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 305 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 483 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 481 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 480 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 484 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 485 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 486 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 489 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 488 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 487 }

#######if romania doesnt exist
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 423 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 436 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 432 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 431 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 424 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 425 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 426 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 427 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 428 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 429 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 495 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 496 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 498 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 434 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 435 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 433 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 230 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 231 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 232 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 233 }


#######if croatia doesnt exist
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 380 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 381 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 382 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 383 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 384 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 385 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 459 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 455 }

#######if yugoslavia doesnt exist
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 454 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 453 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 452 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 451 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 389 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 388 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 387 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 386 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 385 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 493 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 494 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 418 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 415 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 414 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 413 }

#######if finland doesnt exist
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 132 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 130 } #Mikkeli, missing in 1.05b
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 131 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 137 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 136 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 138 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 139 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 103 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 148 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 149 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 147 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 144 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 146 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 143 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 142 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 141 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 133 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 134 } # Russian Karelia + Kola to GERland
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 135 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 150 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 151 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 152 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 146 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 145 }

#########if sweden doesn´t exist
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 96 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 95 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 93 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 98 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 97 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 99 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 100 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 101 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 102 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 104 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 105 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 106 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 112 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 113 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 114 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 115 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 119 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 120 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 121 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 122 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 123 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 126 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 127 }

#########if bulgaria doesn´t exist
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 416 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 417 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 419 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 420 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 421 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 422 }

#########if hungary doesn´t exist
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 456 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 457 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 458 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 491 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 492 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 497 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 499 } # Munkacs, missing in 1.05b

#########if slovakia doesn´t exist
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 469 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 476 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 477 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 478 }

#########if persia doesn´t exist
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1859 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1789 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1788 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1825 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1826 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1787 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1502 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1501 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1500 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1503 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1498 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1499 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1497 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1496 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1495 }

#########if manchukou doesn't exist
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1382 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1381 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1380 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1387 }
# command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1530 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1390 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1389 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1374 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1375 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1377 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1378 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1379 }


# New in HoI 2
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 194 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 193 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 195 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 196 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 199 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 198 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 197 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 205 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 204 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 203 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 202 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 214 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 577 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 511 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 207 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 208 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 213 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 509 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 209 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 211 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 508 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 507 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 210 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 505 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 503 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 222 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 504 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 562 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 506 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 502 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 501 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 229 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 500 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 179 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 243 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 158 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1833 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1849 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1164 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1174 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1416 } # Irkutsk


command = { type = peace which = GER }


# Estonia
command = { type = removecore which = 199 }
command = { type = removecore which = 195 }
command = { type = removecore which = 193 }
command = { type = removecore which = 196 }
command = { type = removecore which = 194 }

# Latvia
command = { type = removecore which = 205 }
command = { type = removecore which = 204 }
command = { type = removecore which = 203 }
command = { type = removecore which = 202 }
command = { type = removecore which = 197 }
command = { type = removecore which = 198 }

# Lithuania
command = { type = removecore which = 577 }
command = { type = removecore which = 511 }
command = { type = removecore which = 206 }
command = { type = removecore which = 207 }

# Bessarabia
command = { type = removecore which = 434 }
command = { type = removecore which = 435 }
command = { type = removecore which = 433 }
command = { type = removecore which = 230 }

# Claims on Finland
command = { type = removecore which = 132 }
command = { type = removecore which = 145 }
command = { type = removecore which = 152 }
command = { type = removecore which = 146
}



# If Slovakia doesn't exist, it Slovakian provinces to Hungary
# If both countries don't exist, provinces of both go to Germany
command = { type = secedeprovince which = HUN value = 496 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = HUN value = 477 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = HUN value = 476 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = HUN value = 478 }


# In case Finland still exists:
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 145 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 146 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 134 } # Russian Karelia + Kola to Finland
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 133 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 135 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 150 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 151 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 152 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 132 }

command = { type = peace which = FIN }

# In case USSR is still at war with Sweden:
command = { type = peace which = SWE }

# Bessarabia back to Romania:
command = { type = secedeprovince which = ROM value = 434 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = ROM value = 435 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = ROM value = 433 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = ROM value = 230 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = ROM value = 231 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = ROM value = 232 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = ROM value = 233 }
command = { type = peace which = ROM }

command = { type = peace which = BUL }
command = { type = peace which = PER }
command = { type = peace which = SLO }


# Japanese Slice of the Cake:
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1175 } # Northern Sakhalin
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1172 } # Commodore
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1171 } # Kamtjatka
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1405 }

command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1366 } # Vanino
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1368 } # Ulunga
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1369 } # Dalnegorsk
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1373 } # Spassk Dalnij
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1370 } # Dalneretjensk
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1367 } # Chabarovsk
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1371 } # Nachodka
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1372 } # Vladivostok

# Even bigger slice for Japan
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1160 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1166 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1167 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1163 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1165 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1170 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1158 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1159 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1525 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1522 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1524 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1521 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1520 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1412 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1411 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1409 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1384 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1383 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1410 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1526 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1523 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1528 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1529 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1527 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1404 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1437 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1438 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1399 }

# Added because because original event didn't make peace with them
command = { type = peace which = JAP }
command = { type = peace which = MAN }


# If Germany is at war with Norway, and USSR has captured a German-occupied Norwegian province,
# gives it back to Norway
# If USSR has annexed Norway, secede provinces to Germany

command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 129 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 128 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 125 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 124 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 118 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 117 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 116 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 111 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 110 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 109 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 108 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 107 }

# Hand back provinces to Norway in case it still exists
command = { type = control which = NOR value = 129 }
command = { type = control which = NOR value = 128 }
command = { type = control which = NOR value = 125 }
command = { type = control which = NOR value = 124 }
command = { type = control which = NOR value = 118 }
command = { type = control which = NOR value = 117 }
command = { type = control which = NOR value = 116 }
command = { type = control which = NOR value = 111 }
command = { type = control which = NOR value = 110 }
command = { type = control which = NOR value = 109 }
command = { type = control which = NOR value = 108 }
command = { type = control which = NOR value = 107 }



command = { type = dissent value = -15 }
command = { type = relation which = GER value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = ROM value = 20 }
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = 20 }
command = { type = relation which = FIN value = 20 }
command = { type = relation which = JAP value = 20 }
command = { type = relation which = MAN value = 20 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -20 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -20 }
command = { type = relation which = USA value = -20 }
command = { type = domestic which = interventionism value = -2 }
command = { type = belligerence which = SOV value = -50 }

# Move the capital
command = { type = capital which = 1548} # Novosibirsk
command = { type = province_keypoints which = 1548 value = 5 }

command = { type = headofstate which = 4011 }
command = { type = headofgovernment which = 4012 }
command = { type = foreignminister which = 4013 }
command = { type = armamentminister which = 4014 }
command = { type = ministerofsecurity which = 4015 }
command = { type = ministerofintelligence which = 4016 }
command = { type = chiefofstaff which = 4017 }
command = { type = chiefofarmy which = 4018 }
command = { type = chiefofnavy which = 4019 }
command = { type = chiefofair which = 4020 }
}
}
#########################################################################

Posté : mer. mars 09, 2005 11:45 am
par Leaz
Sinon tu peut modifier la save et virer le japon de l'axe !

Posté : mer. mars 09, 2005 11:55 am
par Boudi
Quelle bande de Cheateurs ! ;)

Il demande une réponse stratégique, pas une réponse de truand !!

Posté : mer. mars 09, 2005 12:48 pm
par von Aasen
Remarque que la logique dans les events HoI hein ... Ils vont pas capituler parce que les Japonais sont également en guerre contre eux et leur ont pas bouffé la moitié de la Sibérie :roll:
C'est sur que ça donne beaucoup plus d'espoir que si les Japs n'avaient pas été en guerre !

Je sens que je vais l'activer cet event, marre de perdre des dizaines de milliers d'hommes morts de froid en URSS ...

Ca m'évitera aussi d'avoir à essayer de repousser des débarquements anglais avec trois divisions de montagne :roll:

Posté : mer. mars 09, 2005 9:31 pm
par Chazam
Mais en vrai, je ne vois pas Staline capituler face aux nazis... il se serait sans doute réfugié en Sibérie et aurait attendu que les nazis s'y perdent en continuant la guérilla sur tout le territoire...
Hitler, envahi par tous les bouts, n'a jamais imaginé demander la paix (en même temps il devait savoir que c'était impossible).

Posté : mer. mars 09, 2005 9:40 pm
par Lord Simileon
Oui, mais les collaborateurs d'Hitler, eux, ont cherché des solutions de paix, malgré qu'ils se soient heurtés à plusieurs reprises à la réponse "capitulation inconditionnelle" de la part des Alliés.

Lord Simileon

Posté : jeu. mars 10, 2005 12:54 am
par jmlo
Chazam a écrit :Mais en vrai, je ne vois pas Staline capituler face aux nazis... il se serait sans doute réfugié en Sibérie et aurait attendu que les nazis s'y perdent en continuant la guérilla sur tout le territoire...
Hitler, envahi par tous les bouts, n'a jamais imaginé demander la paix (en même temps il devait savoir que c'était impossible).
Tu rigole Staline a failli lacher l'affaire fin 41 c'était pas Hitler à se suicider dans son bunker, y se serai barrer dans les iles le pere stalino 8)

Posté : jeu. mars 10, 2005 1:14 am
par Werewolf
Oui, d'ailleurs Staline a plusieurs fois demandé la Paix jusqu'au milieu 1943. Si Hitler avait envahi l'Oural (où était concentrée TOUTE l'industrie soviétique), les champs pétrolifères de Bakou (coupant également le ravitaillement US par la Perse) et les Japonais la Sibérie orientale, il aurait été impossible pour les Russes de continuer à mener une guerre de masse. Parler de guérilla quand on a même pas de quoi fabriquer des munitions relève de la blague du plus mauvais goût.

Posté : jeu. mars 10, 2005 12:07 pm
par von Aasen
Me souviens de négociations de paix avec Ribbentrop, mais qui n'ont pas abouti vu que les Soviétiques voulaient absolument retourner aux frontières d'avant-guerre.

Posté : jeu. mars 10, 2005 12:42 pm
par SeNTEnZa
[align=justify]L'ambassadeur de Bulgarie à Moscou, fut convoqué le 23 juin 41 au Kremlin, car Molotov et Staline, affolés voulaient negocier un accord laissant aux allemand, et sans meem combattre, la majeure partie de l'Ukraine, la Bielorussie et les Pays Baltes.
L'ambassadeur bulgare refusa de servir d'intermediaire et declara à Molotov :

"Même si vous devez reculez jusqu'a l'Oural, vous gagnerez en fin de compte" (source: Stalingrad de Beevor)

Il est probable que de tels avis auraient encouragés les Russes a resister jusqu'au bout, comme le firent les allemands. Enfin on ne saura jamais, et tant mieux!

Cela me parait etonnant que Staline demande la paix jusqu'en milieu 43, car apres la reussite d'Uranus et de Petite Saturne (encerclement de la 6eme Armée à Stalingrad) les russes etaient remontés à fond et avaient constaté que "les allemands qu'ils avaient combattus en 41 n'etaient plus les memes". La demoralisation et les pertes avaient rendus la wermacht moins redoutable. Et puis les russes criaient vengeance...
Mais peut etre etait-ce un stratageme de Staline pour gagner du temps? [/align]

Posté : jeu. mars 10, 2005 1:18 pm
par Boudi
Tu rigole Staline a failli lacher l'affaire fin 41 c'était pas Hitler à se suicider dans son bunker, y se serai barrer dans les iles le pere stalino


L'idée que j'ai du personnage, c'est qu'il était extrêmement versatile dans ses états d'âmes. Face à l'attaque allemande, il semblerait qu'il pouvait passer dans la même journée d'un désespoir absolu le matin à une volonté farouche de combattre l'après midi (été 41).

Par exemple, il était effectivement prêt à lâcher l'Ukraine contre une paix bien illusoire.

A contrario, en décembre 41, alors que Moscou était à portée de canon de la Whermacht, il a ordonné à ses ministères d'évacuer la capitale alors que lui-même est resté au Kremlin pour galvaniser ses troupes. Les Allemands n'étaient qu'à 25 km...

Posté : jeu. mars 10, 2005 3:25 pm
par Dédé
De toute façon, il n'a jamais été dans les plans allemands de conquérir toute l'URSS, l'objectif, en gros, c'était au maximum l'Oural et Bakou, le restant de la russie étant réduit à une sorte d'état fantoche sibérien.

Si paix il y avait eu, les allemands auraient probablement éxigé le départ des communistes pour mettre un type du genre Vlassov a la tete des restes de la russie.

Posté : ven. mars 11, 2005 1:22 am
par Chazam
ben j'en apprends des trucs :P reste que ça m'étonne que Staline ai réellement pensé faire la paix avec les nazis...

Un type aussi perfide, d'une telle ruse politique, ça m'étonne...

J'arrive pas à me dire que c'étaient une vraie volonté de lâcher le morceau. Après, si les Nazis étaient arrivés juqu'à l'Oural... qui sait?