Crusader Kings 2 carnet N°1

[jagermeister]

Dev Diary 1

A while back I might have let slip that I intended to make a post about our general design goals with Crusader Kings II. As it happens, the game is coming along nicely, and, starting with this one, you should actually be seeing monthly CKII development diaries coming your way (on the first Thursday of the month). Now then, with Crusader Kings II we are not trying to reinvent the wheel. Rather, we want to build on the strengths of the original game and fully realize its potential. That is not to say that CKII will be the same game with new graphics, but it should feel instantly familiar to CK players.

What makes CK unique among our games is its character system and its RPG-like elements. The role of the player is clear since there is a ruler, a character, to identify with. The player is the king, and it's good to be the king! In CKII, we aim to really hone in on the importance of characters - their personalities, interests and interactions - and to tone down the relevance of "countries". The sum total of the Prestige your successive rulers have gathered throughout the game determines your final score; not the size of your realm at game end. Of course, a major source of Prestige is the power of your family, your Dynasty. In fact, die without an heir from your dynasty and it's time to INSERT COIN.

The core gameplay, then, revolves around increasing the power of your dynasty and ensuring that you always have a legal heir with strong enough support. The death of your current ruler is the moment of truth: who will support the legal heir? Have you even managed to ensure one? Will anyone contest the succession? Unlike CK, where your vassals would declare war on you simply because they disliked you (regardless, even, of their chance of success), in CKII they are much more likely to bide their time and cause trouble during a succession crisis. The key is to choose the best Succession Law... For example, Gavelkind is almost guaranteed to be safe from succession crises. On the other hand, Gavelkind will divide your titles equally among your sons, splintering the realm and potentially decreasing your power.

I mentioned toning down the concept of countries. Here are some highlights: there is no Infamy/Badboy. Neither do characters have "loyalty", and neither is there a persistent relations value between countries. CKII is all about the characters, their opinions of each other, and their clash of interests. Therefore, we have merged the aforementioned concepts into a single opinion value between -100 and 100. I.e. what one character feels about another character... and why. The value is a sum of modifiers, like "Friend of Father's: +5", "Granted a Duchy: +30", "Betrayed Alliance: -20", etc.

Of course, characters will have traits, genetics and neat portraits like in CK and EU:Rome. If you want to breed a dynasty of redheaded Harkonnen look-alikes, go ahead (with my blessing). Oh, and characters will age visibly; I shall leave you with a screenshot demonstrating the effect!

[Locke]

Ah le sagouin ! J'y ait cru

[Urial]

pareil !

[Urial]

Jag frustrer de ne pas avoir pu faire le topic test

[jagermeister]

J'y ait cru

j'y ai cru sans t.


Je vous ai bien eu.

[jagermeister]

Jag frustré de ne pas avoir pu faire le topic test

La vengeance est un plat qui se mange tiède.

[Urial]

hehe mange froid mon jag, mange froid !

[Locke]

Bon, la sortie de Vicky 2, c'est passé depuis un moment maintenant, il n'y a rien à se mettre sous la dent du côté de Paradox ?

[Emp_Palpatine]

Ils bossent sur CK2 et l'add-on EUIII...

[Emp_Palpatine]

Dev Diary 1

A while back I might have let slip that I intended to make a post about our general design goals with Crusader Kings II. As it happens, the game is coming along nicely, and, starting with this one, you should actually be seeing monthly CKII development diaries coming your way (on the first Thursday of the month). Now then, with Crusader Kings II we are not trying to reinvent the wheel. Rather, we want to build on the strengths of the original game and fully realize its potential. That is not to say that CKII will be the same game with new graphics, but it should feel instantly familiar to CK players.

What makes CK unique among our games is its character system and its RPG-like elements. The role of the player is clear since there is a ruler, a character, to identify with. The player is the king, and it's good to be the king! In CKII, we aim to really hone in on the importance of characters - their personalities, interests and interactions - and to tone down the relevance of "countries". The sum total of the Prestige your successive rulers have gathered throughout the game determines your final score; not the size of your realm at game end. Of course, a major source of Prestige is the power of your family, your Dynasty. In fact, die without an heir from your dynasty and it's time to INSERT COIN.

The core gameplay, then, revolves around increasing the power of your dynasty and ensuring that you always have a legal heir with strong enough support. The death of your current ruler is the moment of truth: who will support the legal heir? Have you even managed to ensure one? Will anyone contest the succession? Unlike CK, where your vassals would declare war on you simply because they disliked you (regardless, even, of their chance of success), in CKII they are much more likely to bide their time and cause trouble during a succession crisis. The key is to choose the best Succession Law... For example, Gavelkind is almost guaranteed to be safe from succession crises. On the other hand, Gavelkind will divide your titles equally among your sons, splintering the realm and potentially decreasing your power.

I mentioned toning down the concept of countries. Here are some highlights: there is no Infamy/Badboy. Neither do characters have "loyalty", and neither is there a persistent relations value between countries. CKII is all about the characters, their opinions of each other, and their clash of interests. Therefore, we have merged the aforementioned concepts into a single opinion value between -100 and 100. I.e. what one character feels about another character... and why. The value is a sum of modifiers, like "Friend of Father's: +5", "Granted a Duchy: +30", "Betrayed Alliance: -20", etc.

Of course, characters will have traits, genetics and neat portraits like in CK and EU:Rome. If you want to breed a dynasty of redheaded Harkonnen look-alikes, go ahead (with my blessing). Oh, and characters will age visibly; I shall leave you with a screenshot demonstrating the effect!

[GA_Thrawn]

Pa beaucoup d'infos nouvelles mais une chose est sûre, ce remake de CK avec cette dimension RPG me plait beaucoup.
Il est fort possible que je fasse le pigeon à sa sortie.

[jagermeister]

Je l'ai copié sur le premier post.


Merci Palpat.

[Emp_Palpatine]

Il n'y a pas de quoi.

[Coelio]

Pa beaucoup d'infos nouvelles mais une chose est sûre, ce remake de CK avec cette dimension RPG me plait beaucoup.
Il est fort possible que je fasse le pigeon à sa sortie.

Je suis sûrement un ignare, mais je ne vois pas franchement beaucoup plus de dimension RPG que dans CK1 ?
Parce que, sauf si je n'ai rien compris comme dans le dev de Divine Wind , la seule innovation que je vois, c'est que les relations seront désormais de personne à personne, et non de dynastie à dynastie (ce qui est sûrement bien marrant à premier abord, mais qui ne va probablement pas changer la face du monde, et qui n'est pas à mon sens d'un réalisme impressionant....)

[Emp_Palpatine]

Allez, remplaçons des interventions inintéressantes par des chants de la Théogonie, et voyons si les QGéens s'en rendent compte...

"Commençons par invoquer les Muses de l'Hélicon, les Muses qui, habitant cette grande et céleste montagne, dansent d'un pas léger autour de la noire fontaine et de l'autel du puissant fils de Chronos, et baignant leurs membres délicats dans les ondes du Permesse, de l'Hippocrène et du divin Olmius, forment sur la plus haute cime de l'Hélicon des chœurs admirables et gracieux."